Japan domestic flights
#1
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Japan domestic flights
Plannimg on taking domestic flights in Japan? Japan has several low cost carriers. I prefer ANA and JAL for a few reasons. JAL and ANA have special fares for foreign visitors, but those fares can be beat.
Go to JAPAN AIRLINES Worldwide Sites (jal.com)
Choose: City=Tokyo, Language= English, and Go
Do a search for All fare classes
They offer excellent advance purchase fares, 28-day, 7-day, 3-day advance. The change/cancel conditions and fees are really good.
I recently flew three flights: HND-CTS-FUK-HND. I got great discount fares for two of the flights, but paid regular fare for the middle one, about $360. These were all in business class. About two weeks beforer that CTS-FUK flight I saw that the 3-day advance purchase fare was available, so I cancelled the ticket I had and booked that fare at a $120 savings. Only had to pay a 440 yen cancel fee - about three bucks. Cancel for a refund, I mean.
For some of those deep discounts I think you have to pay the 440 plus (only) 5% of the fare.
I could have gotten mileage credit on my AA account, but it was easier to just use my JMB account to access and manage the reservations.
Here is an example for Tokyo HND to Sapporo CTS on January 18th:
12,240 for economy
14,240 for business class
The JAL Yokoso Visit Japan fare is 28,600 for two sectors with some more restrictive cancel/change conditions.
That fare difference of 2000 yen is under $15 for a business class seat that is comparable to US domestic first class on a narrow-body. Or about the same as premium economy on a widebody (think United 787). Way worth it to me, given my experience with very tight Japan domestic economy seating,
There is a change to their fare scheme coming on April 12:
JAL | Service advisory regarding changes in domestic fare scheme
Go to JAPAN AIRLINES Worldwide Sites (jal.com)
Choose: City=Tokyo, Language= English, and Go
Do a search for All fare classes
They offer excellent advance purchase fares, 28-day, 7-day, 3-day advance. The change/cancel conditions and fees are really good.
I recently flew three flights: HND-CTS-FUK-HND. I got great discount fares for two of the flights, but paid regular fare for the middle one, about $360. These were all in business class. About two weeks beforer that CTS-FUK flight I saw that the 3-day advance purchase fare was available, so I cancelled the ticket I had and booked that fare at a $120 savings. Only had to pay a 440 yen cancel fee - about three bucks. Cancel for a refund, I mean.
For some of those deep discounts I think you have to pay the 440 plus (only) 5% of the fare.
I could have gotten mileage credit on my AA account, but it was easier to just use my JMB account to access and manage the reservations.
Here is an example for Tokyo HND to Sapporo CTS on January 18th:
12,240 for economy
14,240 for business class
The JAL Yokoso Visit Japan fare is 28,600 for two sectors with some more restrictive cancel/change conditions.
That fare difference of 2000 yen is under $15 for a business class seat that is comparable to US domestic first class on a narrow-body. Or about the same as premium economy on a widebody (think United 787). Way worth it to me, given my experience with very tight Japan domestic economy seating,
There is a change to their fare scheme coming on April 12:
JAL | Service advisory regarding changes in domestic fare scheme
Last edited by mrwunrfl; Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:05 AM.
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Definitely closer in.
The search results for on/after April 12 next year are different than before that date. It doesn't have an "All" fares option but does have "Economy Class + Class J". Class J being business class. You would have to choose First Class separately if you want to see those fares.
By "closer in", I am thinking that next time I will start to check fares 2 months in advance, looking for the 28-day (or shorter) advance purchase fare. And check again even after I buy. [this is different in timing for me vs buying a ticket to/from/in the USA where I would already be looking and ready to buy 6 months in advance, at least for an international flight]
Of course, you would want to check fares on LCCs.
And compare to the special fares on ANA and JAL:
Special Fares | Promotions | Plan | Plan and Book | ANA
Welcome to Japan Fare - JAL
this one is new to me:
JAL Japan Explorer Pass
The search results for on/after April 12 next year are different than before that date. It doesn't have an "All" fares option but does have "Economy Class + Class J". Class J being business class. You would have to choose First Class separately if you want to see those fares.
By "closer in", I am thinking that next time I will start to check fares 2 months in advance, looking for the 28-day (or shorter) advance purchase fare. And check again even after I buy. [this is different in timing for me vs buying a ticket to/from/in the USA where I would already be looking and ready to buy 6 months in advance, at least for an international flight]
Of course, you would want to check fares on LCCs.
And compare to the special fares on ANA and JAL:
Special Fares | Promotions | Plan | Plan and Book | ANA
Welcome to Japan Fare - JAL
this one is new to me:
JAL Japan Explorer Pass
Last edited by mrwunrfl; Dec 10th, 2022 at 07:54 AM.
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Thanks for this information! My experience looking today/2 months out: I tried both your JAL process and the Explorer Pass. The JAL process came in a couple dollars cheaper than Explorer Pass for multi-city Osaka-Kansai to Naha, Okinawa, to Tokyo-Haneda. The explorer pass base fare was never 11,000 JPY for the multiple dummy dates and (mainland to Okinawa) routes I put in. Even accommodating for fuel surcharges/taxes as extra costs, the "base fare" was never 11,000, which is disappointing. So, I'm sorta resigned to the $224 RT fare, and giving up the Explorer fare which promised a fare closer to $166, or possibly $194 with $28.40 in taxes--if taxes were not included in the advertised fare.
I wouldn't have cared so much, but paying for 6 people, so was hoping to save a bit. May research Jetstar and Peach further. Thank you!
I wouldn't have cared so much, but paying for 6 people, so was hoping to save a bit. May research Jetstar and Peach further. Thank you!
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Frequent flyer awards for domestic Japan travel are inexpensive. The availability is often very good. Another plus is that they can be cancelled for a full refund of miles.
For example, flying from Nagasaki to Tokyo Haneda would cost:
$2.50 plus 5,500 United miles in economy
$0 plus 7,500 American miles in economy or 15,000 miles in business class.
For example, flying from Nagasaki to Tokyo Haneda would cost:
$2.50 plus 5,500 United miles in economy
$0 plus 7,500 American miles in economy or 15,000 miles in business class.
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I recently booked two domestic flyer award flights on ANA - the only problem was it was too early to book for April which was the next season or whatever and the ANA website was unclear as to when reservations for that period would open. So I went on the app twice a day and kept trying until it opened up...
Yes, not many many miles from KIX to Naha and back to KIX from Ishigaki....
Yes, not many many miles from KIX to Naha and back to KIX from Ishigaki....
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Nice score, Mara.,
Just for fun I checked Nagasaki to Haneda fares for April. The JAL fares are ¥26,220 for economy and ¥28,420 ($189) for J-class (more leg room and a bit wider seat). The American miles would get you JAL flights.
Just for fun I checked Nagasaki to Haneda fares for April. The JAL fares are ¥26,220 for economy and ¥28,420 ($189) for J-class (more leg room and a bit wider seat). The American miles would get you JAL flights.
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